~By Wendy Zangari
I am only going to be dissecting this one channel to show you how I decipher between the lines on a channeling. I have highlighted everything in yellow as my response to what is being said here in this channeling between Linda Dillon and Steve Beckow. I am not doing this to be a mean person, I am not doing this maliciously to anyone, Linda or Steve! I just want to show all of you how I decipher a channel and this is a great example because I will pin point each piece that doesn’t resonate with me, it doesn’t mean it won’t resonate with you, I am just pointing it out and carefully letting you know what I look for, so that you can discern for yourselves a little bit easier.
Another point is that I am not so sure about Billie Faye Woodward now, to be honest with you. I had a first instinct about him earlier last year and I didn’t really post any of his stuff, but I now know that my instincts were correct and I have now taken down 2 of his articles from this site. Blossom Goodchild is in support of this Neptune trip, therefore she has been taken off of this site. Suzanne Spooner has been taken off of this site because she too believed in this trip to Neptune in “space bicycles”.
Below I have dissected Steve’s channeling with Linda Dillon. This will be the first and last time I will ever do this, post an article only to dissect it. I have added the article in its totality so that you don’t have to read bits and pieces and can get the whole picture.
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An Hour with an Angel spent an hour with Grener, hearing more about what led to the decision to postpone having 300+ people abord the Neptune, the factthat the first smaller group of people are already on board, including John Lear whose account of his visit has already been circulated on the Internet and whose photos are expected to be released.
The program aired Monday, 6:00 p.m. Pacific time, 9:00 p.m.
Eastern time. The URL for the audiofile is:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/an-hour-with-an-angel
Both Grener and I made an error in calling the word “Neptune” Greek in derivation rather than Latin. I’d imagine that the Latin language as well as the Greek is galactic in origin but I will ask him about it the next time we speak, perhaps in a month’s time when I return.
There will be those who put credence in Grener’s explanation of why the trip was postponed or cancelled, depending on how you see it, and those who don’t, depending on whether you put credence in any or all of what is occurring and other factors.
Grener tells as much as it’s prudent to say. You’ll notice at one point we have a tug of war – his interest being in what he jokingly termed “stonewalling” and mine in getting information, though not wishing to place anyone in jeopardy thereby.
Many galactics have a wonderful sense of humor and Grener is no exception, but humor is often what critics latch onto, as the “limousine” comment demonstrated and Grener noted. Nevertheless I enjoyed the informality and back and forth that Grener engaged in and his easy manner.
Thanks to Ellen for pointing the “Greek” error out and for a quick turnaround on the transcript. ~Steve Beckow
An Hour with an Angel, February 6, 2012:
Steve Beckow, Linda Dillon and Grener
Graham Dewyea: Hello and welcome to An Hour with an Angel, a weekly radio program with Linda Dillon, the channel for the Council of Love, and Steve Beckow, editor of the 2012 Scenario who will be asking questions. Tonight’s special guest, Grener, the President of the Intergalactic Council, will be joining us again. So with that, I’ll pass it on to you, Steve.
Steve Beckow: Thank you, Graham. And I think before we begin with Grener, I think, Linda, perhaps you have some comments on the events of last week that you’d like to share with our listeners?
Linda Dillon: Good evening, everybody. Well, not so much comments as observations, as the channel for Council of Love. As you know, I get to hear, listen, and see probably from a very different perspective than a lot of people.
But one of the things that I’ve been seeing, amidst all the hubbub and excitement and emotional turmoil and upset about this joy-ride to the Neptune is that what I’ve also seen and what I’ve also been hearing — from the Council, from Jesus Sananda, from Mary, from the archangels — is how incredible the growth and the clearing is that’s taken place among thousands and thousands and thousands of people.
[So my take on this is that Linda is happy that people cancelled appointments, some told their families that they were leaving to go to space on a space bicycle and had their hearts broken. Some are devastated and crushed and you are happy that, and I quote "how incredible the growth and the clearing is that’s taken place among thousands and thousands and thousands of people" (Linda Dillon).That is what you have to say? Would I want a channeling done with this person, probably not. It was a growing experience to know that this person is not channeling a good entity and that Linda Dillon is not protecting herself very well.]
When we did our conference call on Saturday there were just shy of 800 people on. And all those people we could tell were all in various states, in terms of their own spiritual journey, in terms of their own Ascension work, because that’s really what we’re here, to do our service, our love and our Ascension work. So everybody seemed to be in a different place.
[Everybody is in a different place because you and Steve, among other people, keep jerking people around and they lose faith. Perhaps we can all get to the light the easier way. TOGETHER! This seems like a plan from the Dark Ones to pull lightworkers apart.]
But one of the things that I’m overwhelmed and pleased about is to see how people are really grabbing this opportunity, this catalyst, to take it and apply it to their spiritual journey. And, you know, we’ve had all kinds of responses, as you know, Steve, and my staff tells me that the feedback on the 2012 site was about twelve to one positive in terms of that experience and lots of very positive kudos and feed back to you.
[Linda is "overwhelmed and pleased" that you grabbed an opportunity with negative entities, that broke your spirit and your heart, Also, I am curious as to how I got more positive comments on our point of view, if their statistics are correct.]
But more importantly than that, I want people to just—before we get started tonight — take a minute, not now, but in the next few days, in the next few hours, the next few weeks, to really go inside your heart and feel where you’re at. I’ve had people say, “You know, it was the best experience that my wife and I ever went through. We packed our bags, we sat on the couch and we meditated and we got ready, and nothing happened—and it was the best thing we’ve ever done.” And other people have said, “You know, I’m so depressed and angry I can’t get out of bed.”
[If that is the kind of response Steve Beckow and Linda Dillon gets, I am sure these people are not yet of sound body and mind. Please understand I am not putting anyone down or being judgmental, I am just telling you my instant thoughts as if it were me having this happen to me, I know that I would have physical pain and have a Fibromyalgia flare-up, I would not feel wonderful for the experience.]
Well, we’re all in different places. But if you just look at the experience that you’re going through right now, and this catalyst of, you know, did you get to go or didn’t you get to go, and why did you want to go? Is it going to give you information about how to go forward in this journey of love, because that’s what this journey is about. It’s not about falling into the old Earth paradigms of guilt, limitation and blame, fault and lack—because that’s old stuff.
[This is a journey for not only love, but truth and if you can't have truth, you can't have love. I don't believe this perspective is rational. You tell people they are going to space for a 10 day trip to meet their astral families and announce "Disclosure", they cancel work, appointments, tell their families, and pack their bags. I am sorry, the learning experience here is that you have been wrong time and time again and it is time to stop going around in circles and banging your head against the wall, expecting different results. It isn't worth the pain to gain pleasure, isn't that a sadistic way of thinking?... Exactly.]
That’s where we don’t want to go. We want to just look at it, let it go, and keep going. And let the love, let all the support from the entire universe — I mean we’re surrounded in it — let that love and support come into you, come into your heart, and anchor you, not just in your daily meditation, but in every waking moment moment and everything you do. Let it in.
[I would not let entities in from this whole Universe, for instance I would not let a Draconian in. I am aware of the Universe around us, I am aware of good and bad entities. I have seen them, felt them strangle me and cause havoc in my life, so I know it exists, which is why I am very selective to whom I speak with and when I speak with them. If you let everything in the Universe into your heart, you will find that you will have conflicting thoughts on a constant basis. Only let in the good from the Universe.]
So, I wanted to say bravo to everybody who’s declared themselves and said, “We’re ready,” you know, Let’s go. We’ve all had a variety and a whole range of emotions about this, but that’s all it is. It’s just information and emotions about where we are. So with that, I’ll hand it back to you, Steve.
[Wow, that seems like she does not care about the people that believed the trip to Neptune would happen, when it didn't, especially since she is talking about emotions. ]
SB: Thanks, Linda. And we’re going to speak to Grener tonight, I think?
LD: Well, we’re going to see. I’ll get out of his way.
[NO PROTECTION PRAYER]
Jesus
Jesus: Greetings, I am Jesus Sananda. And yes, you will get to speak to Grener, but first I wish to come forward, and also say good evening, to you, Steve, and to everybody who is listening now and later. For you know my connection with the Galactics and Intergalactics and the entire Omniverse.
So I wish once again to speak to you, my brothers and sisters, about love, about holding peace in your heart, about going forward on your journey. And yes, of course, it includes your brothers and sisters of the stars and far beyond. It also includes your brothers and sisters of Earth, of Gaia, who accompany you and who have volunteered in this journey of transformation, of upliftment, of accompanying her in her Ascension and in yours.
[Feel good stuff to get you to trust!]
I wish to remind you of my purpose not only when I walked upon the planet a long time ago, but as I accompany you right now, today and everyday, in this journey of unfoldment, the unfoldment of the Divine Plan and the unfoldment of your plan.
[Divine Plan, to hurt people and to break promises over and over again. Is that the Divine Plan you speak of?]
Stay in your hearts, my beloved ones. No, that is not a cop-out; that is not avoiding anything. It is where you are finding the truth, not only of your own sweet self, of your journey, of your essence, but also of the Divine. So that is where we meet you, that is where we join together. It is in the love.
[Stay in your hearts so that they can inflict pain upon you easily?]
[Stay in your heart for these beings? You will then be healing them, in the sense that you try to heal their soul unbeknownst to you! You should not do this because they are not of pure intent, nor is Linda Dillon. Also, Jesus would NOT say "cop-out", it is not in his vernacular]
So yes, I step aside, for there are several who wish to speak tonight. But I will pass you over, but I will also remain, because I wish this transmission tonight to include my vibration of love. Farewell.
SB: Thank you for coming tonight, Lord.
[NO PROTECTION PRAYER]
Grener
Grener: I am Grener of Ashira, of Neptune, President of the Intergalactic Council.
SB: Thank you, Grener.
G: Welcome, my friends, my brothers and sisters and allies. Welcome to this time that we have once again together for you to begin to assume your position with us, as representatives of Earth, and we, as representatives of the stars, upon your Earth. Yes, we know you have many questions that you wish to pose tonight.
[Assume your position to join their alliance to the dark side? NO! These are NOT good entities! They do not represent us!]
But let us begin by telling you that the transformation of the energy between dimensions, realities, levels, hearts, beings, community has begun, and it most certainly has begun and flourished and grown in this light-holder, light-worker community. So although the grander mission has been changed, shifted, for our own reasons and our own commitments, it does not mean that this partnership is in any way altered. It is not.
[I read the first line of this paragraph and I see that these ET's caused chaos and that is the transformation that they are speaking of with the energies within the light-worker community. The grander mission has changed? You had stated that 150 people would be fine to go on this trip in the beginning, and then Steve could go alone and now the mission has CHANGED completely? They pull at your heart strings more and more to get you to have that lump in your throat or in the pit of your stomach. Not cool!]
There are so many of you who, we understand, hunger for the experience, for proof, for demonstration, for contact. And so do we. And that was part of our agreement, you know, and part of our eagerness to invite you—not as our guests, yes, as our delegation; but let us be even more clear—as family.
We weren’t inviting you to some formal ball or affair. We were inviting you to come, have a look-see, sit around the table, chat and share, and be as family. Our desire for that has never changed, and we have held it for thousands and thousands of years. So we, dear friends, are not about to give up.
[Why weren't all the logistics spoken about before hand? This seems very ill planned, also something a GOOD ET wouldn't do. They are very careful and caring about your emotions, they plan carefully, especially if they are the President of their Intergalactic Counsel, they would never do something to hurt you, they handle you as if you were a delicate parcel package, they know that we are emotional beings and they would not throw us in a situation like this over and over again, year after year after year!]
Now, we have tried, as you all have great knowledge of, to reach many of you, and many of those in power or positions of influence, to agree to acknowledge our presence. And so, yes, this has been the grassroots Occupy Neptune movement and it does not stop.
[Occupy Neptune, come on! Again mocking Humans!]
So, Steve, where do you wish to begin?
SB: Well, Grener, I intend for this program to be part of a process of the completion process for people around last week’s events. I think there are some questions that they’d like me to ask. And one of them would be: could you tell us—as much as you can—about the behind-the-scenes discussions that resulted in the postponement of the trip, the genesis of the decision and who ultimately made the decision. I think that might help people to understand what occurred.
G: Some of you know, and some of you do not, that I have been previously a Starfleet commander, before I accepted this position, this wonderful honorary position as president of the Intergalactic Council. This decision was a joint decision. It was not solely mine, although I must say I carry a great deal of influence.
[The last sentence is EGO based!]
But it was a joint decision between the fleet commander and the Intergalactic Council, which is what you would think like the UN Security Council. It was not a vote of all members, because not all members are always fully present or available or wish to have a voice in such things. But it was a group decision.
The genesis of it was…well, there were several things, and we will be as frank as we can. Now, one was that we saw that many of the hundreds and hundreds — which pleased us to no end, make no mistake about it! — but there was also a degree of confusion, chaos….
[Again, a plan that was not well thought out.]
Not amongst all of you, and we do not say this in a negative way. We have said to you before, we can help, we can assist in this clearing. But we never wished for this to be a three-ring circus. We never wished for this to become the situation where people did not receive the individual attention and connection that has been so desired on your side and ours.
[Again not well thought out.]
But also what became apparent—because we have, can we say, greater insight into details of not only individuals’ lives who invite us to have a peek, but also to the greater picture—[was] that there were two situations that were occurring that were against what we have stood for. And that was the drama and the pain, the panic that would result in some families when they realized that their beloved partner, spouse, parent, friend, had simply disappeared, because not all beings were being completely forthright about what was transpiring.
[So Grener and friends just had a peek at the greater picture about the drama, pain, and panic? If Jesus is standing next to him, how is it that they only had a peek into the greater picture of what was going to happen? Aren't our ancestors watching us ALL of the time? Also it is not surprising that there was drama, pain, and chaos, because Steve should not have told them to omit to their families and their workplace and Linda Dillon should not have pulled everyone around on a rotten ride!]
Now we understand that, because you would be considered “certifiable,” in your terms, if you were to say, well, I’m going for a ride on a spaceship. Some people would not understand. And even if you were completely honest, they would be very fearful, more fearful of the honesty than some made-up story.
[Sounds like Grener is mocking humanity, saying that people are now thinking you are crazy, "certifiable", for saying "I'm going on a ride on a spaceship." Saying that "some people would not understand." That "even if you were completely honest, they would be very fearful, more fearful of the honesty than some made-up story." They are asking you to LIE, flat out LIE, no good entity would EVER EVER EVER do that!!! I honestly do not think this a trip to space is crazy, but it will NOT happen like this!]
But it was putting those who were left behind in a position of fear, trepidation, and panic. And this is one of the primary ruling principles that we have always adhered to, is that we will not create panic or fear among the collective. And that is one of the reasons we’ve not had many of the mass landings.
[If your primary ruling principles that you have always adhered to, is to not create pain, fear, trepidation, and panic, then why were the people inflicted with pain, fear, trepidation, and panic by you and your team?]
The message always has to be very clear. We come in love. We are anxious to help with the calming of those old realities of your third dimension. We come to assist. And if we proceeded to create mayhem in communities, that would not be seen as favorable. It would not be creating the scenario that we had hoped to create. And we were not aware of the—first of all, we did not expect so many, and that pleased us no end. It still does. And all are welcome. This is not exclusive. Let us be very, very clear about that.
[Grener did not finish their sentence (so what are they aware of?), also something the good ET's do not do. They are aware that they didn't expect too many passengers? How could they not know? They know the magnitude of readers at Steve Beckow's site, which are in the thousands.]
Additionally, we do not ever wish to go into fear-mongering, for that is not the way that we operate, but many were also being observed and there was interference on some levels there as well. And we would not wish that to occur, or anything to interfere with the growth and the building of this light-worker community.
[The interference that was felt was US, all of those that knew this wouldn't happen, and all of those that protected those that could have gone with entities that they do not know, if that was in fact the case.]
Now, what amazed us was the connection that occurred among yourselves. What we had hoped for was, yes, connection more clearly with us, and us with you. But the silver lining, and the part of the bigger plan, has been the connection amongst yourselves—the support, the excitement the belief, and the temerity, the determination. So that is how the decision was arrived at, those three factors.
[Does a good entity say that what they had hoped for is a connection among ourselves? But the way to go about it they have to tell us a lie to dash people's hopes, so that people get off of the correct esoteric train? They did this so that they would get support, get people excited with belief and confidence and give them a sense of determination? And this is how they made a decision? Make sense? No? Me either!]
SB: Thank you, Grener. You’ve touched on the activities of certain dark individuals and possibly agencies. There were reports of computers being hacked, surveillance vans sitting outside peoples’ homes and people getting sick while these vans were there, helicopters following people. Are the people who reported this imagining things or are these reflections of genuine actions taken by the dark?
[This could be paranoia as Grener points out below, but he calls it imagination running wild. Again mocking humans!]
G: Well, there are some imaginations running wild, and that is based on past life or past experience in this life, but there were also some very decisive actions being taken.
SB: All right. Who exactly are the—we keep talking about the dark forces that are ….
G: Yes, and we do not like to talk in those terms, because what it does is it creates the shadow, and our purpose really is to bring light. Light is another word for love, for peace, for unity. So, yes, when we talk about this we don’t want to term it so much as “dark.”
[Notice how truth is not in the first sentence, but Grener said love, peace, and unity. Why not truth? That would be in the forefront of my mind especially since something as drastic as this, has happened to people.]
Yes, it is mostly those in positions of authority, what you would call probably agencies, but we also want you to understand, from their perspective, they’re doing their job. They’re trying to protect these silly humans who actually believe that they can create a grassroots movement to open up what has been kept in the dark for so long, in the shadows.
[Agencies are trying to protect "silly humans who actually believe that they can create a grassroots movement to open up what has been kept in the dark for so long, in the shadows."? Definitely not from a good entity! Again mocking humans!]
So do not give them power that they do not deserve. Send them light. Send them understanding. Feel that you are embracing them and bringing them into your community. Because once you shine your collective light upon them, my dear friend, they don’t stand a chance. So this is also another one of those golden linings or silver linings that you talk about. It is a chance to see who’s up to what. But also do not believe that you are in some movie or some abduction scenarios. You are not.
[If you open your heart to these dark forces, they will hurt you, you will not be an independent thinker any longer!]
We initially thought that you understood the analogy of black limousines rather than space bicycles, but obviously some did not. And that is why we encouraged you to simply see, “Now, where was I when I was really thinking about that? Was I in my heart and ready to go, or was I inviting in fear?”
[GOOD ET's would not use an analogy when making such HUGE plans, they would have to be concise, give direct instructions and not waiver, this way you KNOW what they mean! These dark ones also want you to feel bad about yourselves, this is how they get to you!]
Look at the fear. Look at that what you call dark forces, and look at it very clearly. look it in the eye, because as soon as you do it dissipates power. We have learned this, and we have learned this over thousands of years. And in the beginning we could barely tolerate each other. And there were many stoic silences. But toleration grew into admiration, cooperation and love. And that is what you all are doing.
["Look fear in the eye, look at what you call dark forces, and look at it very clearly"??? AND it repeats as if it is a mantra! A GOOD ET would not say it quite that way. They would say something like: "Fear is not to be feared, fear is something that is instilled upon you by the dark forces, push that feeling away, do not acknowledge it exists".]
SB: Can we just spend a moment on the “black limousine matter,” Grener, if you don’t mind? The commander that I called Commander X, his channel wrote me and said that I needed to actually name him, and if I didn’t I was in violation of copyright law. It was a rather a hard matter to understand. And they were going to sue me because I actually didn’t use his name on the air. Do you know the being that I’m referring to? Are you aware of the commander of the Altair Fleet? No?
[Steve: Using ANYONE's channeled material, you use their correct name unless it is otherwise stated, this way credit is given where credit is due! Also snipping people's articles is not good etiquette either! ]
G: This is not particularly the kind of action or information that would want you to act upon. We are aware of everybody that is in the fleets. And sometimes there are those who tend to get a little over-zealous. You have the same problem sometimes on Earth, do you not?
[Perhaps some got over zealous about this trip that others know that this cannot happen this way. This is what I feel Grener is referring to in a back handed way.]
SB: Well, I suppose. But usually people—
G: But that was not…that was a threat. That was a threat.
[ET's that are of the light do not interrupt! Also, sounds like Grener is angry about a threat, if they were of the light they would not react in this manner!]
SB: Yes.
G: That did not come from a source of love or higher intelligence or higher intuition or higher dimension. That was a threat, my friend.
SB: Well, usually people say, “If you use my name, I’ll sue you.” But nobody’s ever come to me and said, “If you don’t use my name I’ll sue you”! It was rather—
[Again reiterating a threat, almost as if Grener wants Steve to get riled up and do something about it to the person that accused him of plagiarism.]
G: It is ironic. And it is very much of the ego.
[It is not of the ego, it is principle over matter! You do not use another person's material on their website unless the content is in full and the author gets FULL credit!]
SB: I thought so, myself. But I don’t want to spend too much time on that. I’d like to remain with this question because I think it’s on a lot of peoples’ minds. We’ve often heard from SaLuSa that the Galactics are able to monitor the various people who are opposing Disclosure, and that they’re able to protect light-workers and disable weapons. I think a lot of our listeners are wondering why it would be that the dark’s actions against the relatives of people who wished to board the Neptune would not be routinely stopped by your personnel?
G: Oh, we are not saying they would not be stopped. What we are saying is we do not wish to cause any kind of upheaval. We do not wish to create any situation that even requires that kind of interference. We do not want anybody to be interfered with, observed.
[Your spiritual and intellectual growth has been interfered with, by Linda Dillon, she is not contacting a good entity at all or she is scamming thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people!]
But that was not the intention. The intention was a very public—and it became very public—display. It was a grassroots movement to say “We know, we believe and we accompany, we join.”
So yes, there is a great deal that has been done, both by the galactics and intergalactics. Do not make a separation between us that is not there.
[I don't believe any Federation calls themselves galactics anything, I think it is something made up and is trying to confuse you as to who the real Federation is. This is something that I know a bunch of people are trying to discern now.]
But we would not interfere—for there is one that has said, “Well, why did you not go on the radio or computer to let people know?” [Steve: Notice how much of our conversation Grener knows about. Someone did ask me by email why Grener did not just call me.]
We would not engage in that kind of interference because that is a very bold move. It is a very assertive, shall we say, or aggressive move for us to take. And that is not what the backdrop and the purpose of this visitation is about or was about.
[And you don't think inviting people up to your spaceship and telling hundreds, if not thousands of people that it is a no go the day they were supposed to pick up the scouts? Isn't that bold or aggressive?]
SB: But I think what you’re saying is important, Grener. And I think our listeners may not understand it exactly. You are coming from a higher ethical place than we are, and I don’t think a lot of people understand that, or understand your reasoning when you come from that place. It looks like the Galactics—they’ll talk very confidently, but then when it comes to action they’re very—it’s not timid, that’s not the word I’m looking for.
[These beings are not at a higher ethical place, if they were ethical, they would not tell Steve or his readers to omit to your families!]
G: Reserved.
SB: Reserved and circumspect. Could you please elaborate a little bit on that higher ethics, if you like, so that we can understand what is motivating you and the considerations that you have?
[Again there is no higher ethics in placing hope in people and then ripping it out from underneath them!]
G: Our considerations are actually quite straightforward. Our consideration is the anchoring of peace on Earth. We are in alignment with the plan of the Universal Divine Mother; we are in alignment with the plan of peace of Archangel Michael, we are in alignment with our own Council, and with the Council of Love, for that matter, to only bring harmony to your planet. We have come not only as teachers; you say that we came from a higher ethical plane. What I would say to you is integrity is integrity.
[STRAIGHTFORWARD????? You have not been straightforward to Steve or his readers, hence the trip being cancelled the day of, then Grener tells Steve that only a small group will go, everyone still waited with anticipation. Then his readers find out that only Steve is allowed to go, then no one is allowed to go, that isn't straightforwardness! Then Grener states that they came as teachers, so you teach us to break promises? They came here to bring harmony when they caused pain? Again not ethical behavior!]
Yes, there are various forms and ways and expressions. But our biggest concern is the growth of the human spirit into the fullness of who you are, individually and as a collective. That is our mission, and we are here to help.
[Growth of human spirit, but you broke their spirit, how can this be? How did you help the people? You made them angry, sad, depressed, anxiety ridden, physical painful flareups, and so on! How is that helping?]
We are also here to observe and to help, but also observe. We want to see how you manage this shift, how you change from a society that has been based on a lot of controls—lack, greed, lust, hatred, war. How do you manage this shift to the higher realm? How does it affect you? How can we help? We don’t help by stirring the pot of chaos.
[You observe us managing the shift? Well if you are watching us go through the shift, then you know it has been rough here on this planet, then why did YOU stir the POT OF CHAOS?]
So when we see that perhaps what we have done is more chaotic than peaceful, then we regroup and we re-work what it is we can do and what we can offer. Because the last thing your planet or any of you need is more chaos or more heartache.
[Exactly, the only thing I agree on in this article!]
And all heartache is is a longing for love, a longing for that trust and that truth and that connection—and that, dear heart is on the exact same level as we are. That is what we long for. We may be a little further along in achieving that, but we’ve had a longer period of time working at it, and we enjoy it. We do not seek to have things out of order.
[If our longing is for love and trust and truth?? Then why jerk the public around?]
This is the question behind the question. We do a great deal behind the scenes. We work with what you think needs to be changed—and we would agree with you—in your society, in terms of institutions or situations that represent those belief systems that are not of clarity. But we don’t generally talk about it. We don’t seek to have any kind of credit or acknowledgement for it. This is our mission and purpose. This is our job. So you can imagine our dismay in seeing that we have hurt people, hurt their feelings.
[They do not work with us to what we need to change, they cannot interfere! Period! They can only give a nudge!]
Now, we understand also, in our ethical position, in the bigger picture, this is helping. But it doesn’t help you to hear us say that. So what we say is we are here to encourage you to keep going, because we are and we’re with you.
[Keep going? Keep going sounds like you are out of steam and you just need to take one more belief of theirs and then you will give up and not help us other lightworkers fighting the balance between light and dark and change this planet once and for all!]
SB: All right, Grener. Thank you. I’m going to ask you three questions that I hope you’ll answer just very quickly so that I don’t lose too much of this hour to them.
Accounts are starting to emerge of people who are claiming to be on the Neptune. There’s one account that features a description from John Lear, who used to write about UFOs and Area 51. Is that an accurate, reliable account?
G: Yes.
SB: Some people raised their eyebrows when he said he put a deodorant strip under his arms. Is that true?
[This is ridiculous!]
G: Well, you can do whatever you want! That is the thing. You don’t have to.
SB: But the account was—
[Again, a good ET would not interrupt]
G: But frankly, that would be quite unusual.
SB: So the account was accurate?
G: There are some accounts that are coming forward that are very accurate—
SB: All right.
G: —and will be shown as reliable, some more than others.
SB: Including photographs?
G: That is correct.
SB: Okay. And Billy Woodard said that he traveled outside his body and viewed the Neptune and saw you and Archangel Michael. Is that account accurate and reliable?
[Again, not sure how much I believe from Billie Woodward either]
G: He travelled outside of his body. He did astral travel. He was not in form.
SB: Right. Well, I think he went in his—I actually don’t understand the mechanism—went in his father’s body, or….
G: Let’s just say he has had a glimpse.
SB: So it’s accurate and reliable, though, that he did have the glimpse?
G: Yes.
SB: Okay, well, that’s good to know. One gentleman criticized you because you said that you were the Intergalactic president and you came from Neptune. Can any good thing come out of Neptune? It sounded like he was saying. Neptune on our dimension doesn’t seem to support life, and I imagine he projected on to that that Neptune at higher dimensions didn’t support life.
Could you comment on why a person from a relatively inconspicuous planet in our solar system would be the Intergalactic Council President?
G: I have told you that I am Hussian. The Neptune is my ship. And it is named in honor of Neptune, the planet, that you may think of as inconspicuous and dead, but we have a very different opinion about it.
[Hussian? Never heard of it, but if someone has let me know.]
SB: Well, tell us.
G: First of all, it was vibrant, oh, eons ago. And it will be vibrant again in other realities and dimensions. And, by the way, it is not the only Neptune in the multiverse. But the Neptune is my ship. It is not the place from where I come.
SB: Well, where do you come from?
G: I have been on ships for thousands of years. We come from a very distant planet. Originally we were from Neptune, very, very, very—not me, but my race, my family. We come from a place that you would think of as Zares. That is the place the Hussians had migrated to after much of the destruction.
[Still didn't answer Steve's question, he asked about Grener and all he told him was about his family, he never got around to talking about where HE was from. Also what does "Originally we were from Neptune, very, very very -not me, but my race, my family, mean?]
SB: Grener, you say Neptune. Is that not a word from the Greek language [Steve: It is actually Greek. My error.], as is Andromeda and various—I think the Pleiades, as well? These places are not called after entities reflected in the Greek language? Are they—is there something I am missing about this?
G: It is reflected in the Greek language because the Greek is reflected from the intergalactic language, from the universal language. Now, there are many ways of communicating, and most of them, if we were to do a translation, would just sound like a vibration in your ear, or a bunch of—series of beeps and sounds as if you were—yes, you would be back on the conference calls, would you not?
[Could some of these ascension symptoms be of the dark? Also, not sure what a conference call had to do with this question Steve had asked, but I might have missed something, if I did, let me know! Thanks in advance.
]
So the Greeks were aware of this, but that is not the original origin.
SB: Is the ship actually called the Neptune, or are you just rendering that into our language?
G: Yes it is.
SB: So, so—but Neptune is a word in the Greek language, right?
G: That is correct.
SB: So I’m just—missing one little leap here. It is a word in the Greek language, and yet it’s an intergalactic word. I know you said that the Greek language is based on an intergalactic language. But how much of a coincidence is it that a Greek word would be the name of a ship?
G: Why would you find that unusual? It is a perfect name coming to Earth. It is a god of oceans, that you understood. It is a name that people would recognize. It is a perfect name for a journeying to Earth.
SB: If you went to Sirius, what would you call the ship?
G: Oh, we would still call it the Neptune. That is the name, or that is the name of this being that we have called our ship. So, we do not change the name according to where we go.
[I had thought that they were going to Neptune among other planets according to Steve and his readers, not that this was the name of the ship!!!]
SB: Okay. Well, it still does seem coincidental to me that a name that’s known to us through Greek mythology should be both the name of a ship and also the name of—
[Coincidental alright!]
G: Because that idea was planted in Greek language and mythology thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago. And that is where the intergalactic connection comes from.
There is very little new on Earth, you know. There is much beauty and diversity. But in terms of what you think of as your myths or your understandings, your histories, much of that has been given from the stars.
Oh, there is a history that you have created absolutely yourself that we want absolutely no credit for. But there are some things that have been given and shared long, long ago.
[Why would a good entity say that they do not want credit for our history and mention it at all, unless it was on their mind???]
SB: All right. I don’t want to take up too much of our time, because I’m sure that what my listeners most want to hear is when they might expect to come on board, who might expect to come on board, whether you’re using the list that Linda and we composed? It all boils down to: when will I come on board? So could you talk about that for a minute please?
G: We have said to you very recently that we are not about to expose or give lists of who, when, where, because we have seen the fury that that can cause, above and below. But I could encourage you, each of your listeners, that if you are in a place where you are feeling out of sorts, if you are feeling desperation, if you are feeling anger, then please ask to be beamed up to the healing ships at night so that we may also assist you.
[NO, NO, NO, they WILL NOT and I repeat, WILL NOT take you upon a healing ship, they can heal your ailments as best as they can from here, they do NOT need to take you up in a ship. That doesn't jive with me! The dark are the ones to always look as though they are the saviors even though they are the ones to cause the grief. Per David Wilcock.]
But each being we will take into account. Because they will come in small groups, as we have said, and we will accommodate people’s schedules and needs, and you will have your own intuition and inclination, and tap on your intuitive shoulder, or your guides will speak to you, or we will speak to you. And you will know when the time is right. Of course it will be slower, because we are doing it in smaller lots. But those will—
[If they were to accommodate everyone's schedule and needs, why did people have to call in sick to work, miss their Doctors appointments or family gatherings? This is a lie Grener, or whomever, is telling you!]
SB: What is a smaller lot, Grener?
G: Smaller groups.
[Very evasive! a GOOD entity would not do this, this gave Grener time to think when they do not have to think, the words come naturally most of the time, but they are NEVER evasive!]
SB: What is smaller? What—could—is it okay to tell us the size of the smaller groups?
[Steve had to ask again, because the answer was not given]
G: It depends. Usually four to six.
[The numbers were bigger when they started planning this whole trip out, now it's four to six? Well then why didn't they pick up 4 to 6 people? If they could pick up 4 to 6 people, then why did they exclude Steve on Sunday? If this was the maximum and I can assure you that AT LEAST 4 to 6 people were most definitely ready for something like this and you couldn't do it even with just one person, Steve?]
SB: And the duration, expected duration of the stay?
G: It is not long. It is not as long as we originally intended, although there are some who have very specific business with us, who will stay for longer periods. And they tend to know who they are. But for some it will be a few hours, for some it will be an overnight, for some it will be a day or two. But they will have the opportunity to create the right atmosphere in which to depart so that there is no upheaval, no fear, no chaos.
Many people go away for a few days.
[I thought it was 10 days, now it's a few hours, overnight, and MAYBE longer for business purposes? If you didn't want to create upheaval then perhaps you should have been truthful Grener aka. Linda!]
SB: [laughs] Un-hunh. It’s in our interests to try to get as much information out of you as we can. And it’s both in your interests and in your knowledge of our interests that you not give as much information as you can, so—
G: That is exactly correct. I am stonewalling you, [laughter] while I’m telling you what we can tell you.
[Stonewalling you eh? Wow, a GOOD ET would NEVER say that after such a disaster of events! They would not joke that they are backpeddling or putting something off or never having a completion date, especially with so many hurt souls, they are sensitive beings and would not mock this!!!!]
SB: Okay, well let me continue asking and you can continue stonewalling.
The people—you said earlier that people were coming up who had a very much older connection with the Galactic Federation. And so now I’m trying to get information out of you, but carefully. Could you describe what you meant by having an older connection with the Federation? Are these teachers, are these—
G: They are ones have travelled with us before, what you think of as Starseed, those who may have even been part of this intergalactic grouping at one point in time, who have chosen to be on Earth at this point in time. But we also it means those who have—for example, you have people who want to do specific projects with us, and we are very open to doing that. But that will not be publicized. It will become public record, but we will not be talking about it beforehand.
[I think that this is more like YOU, who believe this, that is the experiment, that is the project of some fake channeler!]
But yes, there are many beings on Earth who have been part of our family. We were not just speaking eloquently when we say we were inviting you back as family. And, yes, it is a large family. That is why so many have this yearning and this knowing in their hearts.
And so many of you who listened tonight have broken those shackles, say, “Oh, I have to stay here.” And you are progressing on your journey, not just your journey to us, because we will still return you home. We are talking about your journey of Ascension, that we wish to help with.
[You really want an entity helping with ascension that has fooled you and is of the dark?]
SB: Is the Neptune the only ship around that is having people come aboard?
G: At the moment. And that was one of the points of discussion. We wanted it—it’s a very big ship you know—but we did not want 50 people here, or 50 people there. It was to be more of a reunion than that. So, do people visit various ships, both in our fleets and in others? Absolutely. All the time! But is it part of this joint venture? No. But that does not mean that they cannot report back interesting information and different evidence at different points in time as well.
[They can be at the same place at the same time in less than an instant, they can beam from one ship to the next, yes I believe this to be true, but what I don't believe is that they want to help us, at least not these entities.]
SB: All right. We have you, as the Intergalactic President, on the Neptune; we have Hatonn somewhere else; SaLuSa is somewhere else. Are you working together? Hatonn, for instance, said that you hadn’t invited him on board, but you know, undoubtedly that was because you probably knew how busy he was. Do you meet with Hatonn and SaLuSa and various other people who are addressing us?
G: Of course we do. We talk. We communicate. We don’t necessarily have to visit each other’s ships, and we don’t necessarily have to be part of each other’s delegations. But of course we work as a unified force.
[They are not of the light, whomever they are speaking with!]
SB: Well, I understand that, but I’m thinking more—let me put it this way— Does SaLuSa know what you’re up to?
G: Yes. More or less, yes.
SB: Yes. Okay.
G: They do not try and interfere in our—various projects. They have far too much to do themselves. But there is an integrated plan, yes. An integrated communication, yes.
SB: Do you know what I’m trying to get at—I’m trying to imagine what’s going on up there. And I don’t know whether I should have SaLuSa situated in one ship, and you situated in another ship, and Hatonn in a third. Whether there are different—
G: And we can all meet in the Intergalactic café, halfway.
SB: That’s right, the space bar. Exactly. So I’m trying to imagine: What’s going on up there? Apparently there are millions of ships. Are they organized into fleets?
G: We are waiting. We are working. We are certainly observing. Sometimes we are laughing, sometimes we are crying. And that is true for all of us. From the person who is a science officer or a part of a crew. Yes, we are all doing this together. There is a unified grid of information and of sharing.
[Observing the chaos they caused and will wait until a calm in this storm and give you all another ride to jump on??? Don't take the train that is NOT going in the right direction!]
SB: What does that mean?
G: Your internet, your universal internet was based on ours, you know. It is very primitive, what you have at the moment, but it is coming along. So we have communication, dear heart.
[Their communication cannot communicate with ours because it is not on the same frequency, if it was on the same frequency we would not hear sounds in our ears like ringing, this is just my thought as to what is in my gut, but again if I am incorrect, please give me the correct data, thank you! Also, I think that we can communicate with them WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY!!!]
SB: Well, are you divided by star system, or are you divided by duty, or how is it organized up there?
G: It is not always by star system, because there are many that come from different systems. It is primarily by mission and function, mission and purpose, and what you wish to work on.
SB: Can you give some examples of mission and purpose?
G: Yes, for example, there are starships that are simply, absolutely— within the Neptune we would have our science departments, as it were—what you would think of as; but we also have science ships, we also have explorer ships, we also have what you can think of as teaching ships. There are communication ships for the enlightenment and the connection with Earthlings. There are ships that are completely devoted to observing what all of Earth’s military does, or what finance does, not in a way always of interfering, because that is not what we do. But sometimes we can offer advice or help that will assist in shifting things, but in the direction where your plan is going.
Our division of labor, if you want to think of it that way, is who wants to work on what area with Earth?
SB: And in your position as Intergalactic President, President of the Intergalactic Council, are you over the whole of the fleet? Or where do you fit in, if you don’t mind me asking?
G: No. When I have said that this is an honorary presidency, it is a real position. Do not make a mistake. I had to abandon or resign my command in order to take this position. So it is not a position where I am in charge or over the command of all the ships. There is a membership of all beings.
[MUSIC UP]
SB: I think I’m being given my signal, Grener. Thank you very much for being with us here tonight.
G: What had we intended to do was to do a meditation.
SB: Yes, indeed.
G: And so I am going to take advantage of this, to invite each of you to go into your hearts and to come with me, to come to the infinite star, the star that burns brightly for you, and to take that star and bring it into your heart, and to feel the love of all your brothers and sisters that serve on all the ships throughout this universe. We love and support you. And we will be with you, above and below, and in your 3D. But turn to us for this healing as you go forward individually and collectively. We are here for you. Go in peace.
[DO NOT go to these entities for healing!]
SB: Thank you, Grener.
G: Farewell. And we will miss you, Steve.
SB: Thank you, Grener. I’ll be back.
G: We know. Farewell.
SB: Farewell.
G: So take advantage of this and just finish up tonight by going into your heart and welcoming the opportunity for growth, for expansion, for your next step. And when any doubt or fear or trepidation creeps in, just bring it back to your love, because that’s who you are. Good night.
[AGAIN, especially when you are going to sleep, DO NOT let these entities in your dreams!!]
SB: Thank you.
G: Goodbye.
[END]
[I have nothing more to say except to DISCERN, DISCERN, DISCERN!!!]
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/02/transcript-of-grener-on-an-hour-with-an-angel-feb-7-2012/
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Wendy,
You know what’s kind of funny, in a way? This was a test. The whole Beckow/Neptune/Grener adventure was a way in which lightworkers around the world could see the value of exercising discernment and realizing that the only place to find the truth is right inside ourselves.
Perhaps you noticed that over the past month or two, Steve was mired in bubblegum fantasy. To me, it was very obvious. I love Steve like a brother and his work is beyond comparison, but he’s been compromised. I’m sure I share everyone’s feelings when I say that I hope he can unwrap himself from this straitjacket. His talents are exceptional and would shine even brighter if he could just disconnect from the channeling circus.
While I’m on the subject, I don’t know if you’ve read the channeled messages over the past few months, but I have and I’ve noticed a definite change in tone and quality of the information. Something’s not right, Wendy. As far as I’m concerned, all of the lightworkers that are posting messages are being duped. There is most definitely some kind of attack taking place in the community and it’s showing up in the channelings. My psychic abilities are not even at a basic level, so I can’t dig up any evidence, but somebody who’s abilities are advanced might be able to. Just a thought.
Meanwhile, lesson learned for me and hopefully many others. I won’t read any more channeled messages. Period. In my meditations I see and feel things that are so much different than what I read on the internet. In me, I find peace and warmth and comfort. On the internet, I see bickering and arguing and complaining.
Ergo, time to disconnect. Time to move forward.
Be at peace,
Mike V.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 7th, 2012 at 7:30 PM
Mike, I don’t think that good entities test us, but I do agree with that Steve has been compromised. The only reason I did this to this channel is to show what goes through my mind as I am reading it. I dislike making examples of channelings and other messages in a negative manner, but I felt it necessary to get people to look for these things. How else are they going to know.
Now I am an intuitive and I speak with deceased family and loved ones as well as my guides. I use discernment anytime I have a transmission, is what I am calling it, so it is all encompassing as there are different avenues in which humans speak to the ethereal world. Like yourself, most do not know how to hone these skills or they have these abilities blocked because of your own pineal gland calcified among poison that is in our air and the frequencies we are forced to hear, whether we know it or not. I hope to show people how to hone these skills. I will be writing more about it in the next few weeks.
I don’t think all channelers are compromised. For instance Denise Le Faye commented on one of my articles on this subject and she is a channeler, just to give you an idea. In the coming months I will find credible channelers, but I do not post them often, if at all. However, I will put the links on the right hand column when I get to that project. Also, I do have to say that going inward is the only way we can center ourselves to know the truth, some have insights and others don’t right now, but they will, such as yourself, you will understand how to discern completely, which I still have to work on as this is an ongoing process.
Greg and I are empaths, so we feel like we were hurt by this as well because we feel what others feel. So, we feel for these people, even those that are being compromised. I hope all of us can learn from this, it was an expensive lesson though. In love and light always and thank you for your thoughts.
Christine Hoeflich Reply:
February 11th, 2012 at 1:51 AM
@Mike V.,
What I think may be happening is that channeling is literally on the decline, and that fewer truly helpful guides are transmitting messages via channeling. (Enough has been channeled already to transform this whole corner of the galaxy! And yet nothing’s happened…because channeling isn’t what’s important!)
So then when the helpful guides leave, the mediums have to “wing it.”
And this is because it’s time people stopped listening to all the channels and instead learned to follow their own inner guidance. Because it’s time to take the next step! (Rather than sitting on one’s ass waiting for someone to tell one what to think or do!)
Mike V. Reply:
February 11th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
@Christine Hoeflich,
Your comment (Enough has been channeled already to transform this whole corner of the galaxy! And yet nothing’s happened…because channeling isn’t what’s important!) is the most insightful piece of logic I’ve heard since my awakening.
As a matter of fact, I think your observation should be a required headline on every Ascension website!
Pay attention, bloggers! Hoeflich has it right.
Screw the channeled messages. Tell ‘em “thanks, but no thanks. We lightworkers got the controls now. See ya on the other side!”
Mike V.
Wendy,
Thank you for dissecting that channelled message in such a detailed and informative manner. You raised so many good and logical points. (I too said Jesus wouldn’t say ‘cop-out’!) I have been a subscriber to the 2012 discussion group for many months now and have read 2012 Scenario for over a year. I stopped reading the channelled messages on that site when there was a ‘discrepancy’ from my point of view, in one of Matthew’s messages via Suzy Ward (sorry if this offends anyone, could be I misinterpreted the message). Another member posted my same question/concern regarding this ‘red flag’ and he was not positively supported. It seems people who disagree with Steve (or his channelers) are a bit ostracized by others in that group. (I do read the titles and skim some of channeled messages to be informed of what ‘channeled’ info is being passed on to others–so I was up to date on the Grener fiasco). Unfortunately, it is correct that the majority of the members on that site are in agreement with Steve, Linda and ‘Grener’. The members of the discussion group are making every excuse, reason, etc. to make this episode ‘ok’. The FEW people (and I am talking may 3 or 4 of us) who dared to say that Linda might not be talking to a ‘light’ entity were ‘basically’ told that we were wrong. I know that at least one of the common sense ‘discerners’ of this fiasco has now left the group. I don’t know how many times people will have to be dissapointed/hurt etc. before they will love themselves enough to say ‘I’m Done’. To me this whole situation is like the abused spouse syndrome, the abuser keeps making excuses, the victim buys into it, gives away their power and keeps coming back for more. It really saddens me that people/lightworkers are being misled in this way. I agree with the other comment above, I feel that Steve is completely reliant on Linda and her channelled ‘disinformation’ for some time now, and unfortunately he is influencing many people in this same direction. I know this is just my opinion, but I am practicing my own ‘discernment’ (as he always suggests) and it is not that hard to figure out that something is not right here. I probably won’t remain a member of that forum for much longer. I’m sure if the majority of them read this comment they would not welcome me there anyway.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 7th, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Nicole, I really think that when you are confronted with doubts that others may not have or deny and become combative, it is time to walk away. Greg and I had to walk away from being Steve’s moderators on his forums as Steve became very controlling trying to contact me via email, phone, skype, etc., all to tell me that I should not post after him in the forums as people will think that we are in a clique. That was very invasive to my personal life calling me and emailing me at every email address that he knew, calling me on my home phone and skype. My Fybromyalgia got worse, I was in a lot of pain, Greg with Degenerative Disc disease, he too had gotten pain from the stress Steve caused us during the time we were monitoring his forums.
As a matter of fact I have to explain to the next person who commented that I am not trying to get famous, I can’t even get out of bed half of the time. Geez. Anyway, just know that there are many people that have left those forums, it has always been a place for people to argue, that is all that happened when Greg and I monitored them earlier last year. Also know that for every 10 comments I got 2 that was pretty rude, but it is what it is. Something I expected, for some to just not understand my point as to why I did this. To help humanity, to guide people towards the light, recognize the dark, but dismiss it, the dark feeds on this attention and this arguing. After this article, I will not do this again unless I FULLY believe it is necessary like it was this time.
I do know that everything will work out in the end as it always does! I hope you do not get discouraged by others, stand up for you and ignore those that are not of the light, because we do not need to give them our energies. .
In love always,
Wendy
Wendy… this was not appropriate for someone in your position. Do you really believe that people need to be taught after the fact of so many things that cannot be proven. The overall effect of this for every person who reads will likely be disparaging, condemnatory and generally proud that they know better. This does not IMO raise the level of consciousness on the earth. Everyone knows the facts…there was a trip planned…it didn’t happen. Now everyone wants to find fault or use it as a soapbox to preach. Why cant’ we just accept the facts without judgement and move on living in the moment.
I think you will be defensive about this …. but I wonder who really is out to make a name for themselves?
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 7th, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Ed, someone in my position tells the truth! Yes I do believe that people need to be taught to discern and to not DISMISS it like you are doing. You see some of these people have been waiting 20 years, some longer, they have heard these “disclosure” episodes and run in the other direction. There are others that I was friends with earlier last year that Linda Dillon’s channelings split up, well we are getting to be ONE again because we can discern between a good entity and a negative entity. This is important and should not be brushed under the rug as you are doing. I cannot accept the facts when they are NOT facts!
This raises consciousness that people have been fooled, so I disagree that this is not how to raise the frequency of humanity. Discerning is raising frequency!
Also, I do not want fame for myself, I am in bed doing this on disability with Fibromyalgia in pain most of the time, my husband has degenerative disc disease and he is bedridden, so I am not sure how we can gain fame when we can barely get out of the house! You apparently are making a judgement on me without knowing my situation or the facts. Thank you for commenting though. I do hope that you join the light, because unless you want to spend $200 an hour to have a reading with Linda DIllon, perhaps you do not know who you are dealing with as you have not spoken to her directly. Greg and I have, we paid for a reading at a discounted rate of $500 for 3 hours. That is the biggest mistake I made with the next to nothing inheritance I got from my mom when she had passed. So until you do a reading with her I do not believe you have much to speak of.
Also, if Steve is preaching to look inward, why is he relying on Linda DIllon for life answers for not just him, but all of humanity. Linda is not the end all be all. She does not speak the truth. Look inward, not solely to channelers. That is my advice to you.
In love and light, Wendy
Hi Wendy, one of my readers sends this:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/financial-services/linda-dillon/gifting-circle-pyramid-circle-ad6dx.htm
An interesting read! Hugs and love. Laura
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 7:18 PM
@Laura Tyco, Thank you for this. I did see your article Dave Schmidt wrote, I think it is BS personally, but that is just me. Good detective work though!
Hi Wendy,
One thing I want to point out. They said that Steve’s comments coming in were 12 to 1 positive. Well, let me tell you that many, many, many people are not speaking up but they will simply be attacked and they are afraid of sharing their opinions with Steve on his site when he leaves the comments open. If anyone has read through this mess you will find that when some is critical of Steve on this “joyride” hordes of his people will step in and start attacking. This would make people uncomfortable and not want to share their true feelings. I won’t share mine there. Also as far as I know for blog’s like his and I think he even has stated it before that all comments are moderated before they are allowed for public viewing. So just in this statement alone 12 to 1 positive I find many problems. Surely support for what had happened is not 12 to 1 positive. If I looked through this channeling I’m sure I could find many things as you. I know it is not a pleasant thing to do but this channel needs to be analyzed and outed if if fact this channel is bad. See even this comment you have to moderate to allow it to post. You could easily have trashed it as I am sure the2012scenario has probably trashed many comments they did not want people to see. Thanks for your time. I’ll read further to see if I have anything to add.
As you can see William that your comment had come through on our website. I do not dis-allow people to post, I allow people to post comments for 30 days on each article. Older articles longer than 30 days ago would not have comments open.
How it works is as such. I have a program installed onto my end that collects spam, it is called Akismet, it shows me the valid comments versus ones that are spam, they put spam in one folder and pending comments from valid people and sources in another. It is 9 times out of 10 spot on as far as what it claims is spam and what is not. However, I assure you I go through all of the comments that are new because if you have not posted a comment on our site before it will ask you for your name, website, and email address. If you have posted a comment before your Name, Website, and email address is already filled in and you should not have to enter it again.
As you can see because you have posted a comment on our site before you are a shoe in and do not have to be approved by me. I do get an email notifying me that alerts me of people commenting, new commenters and old ones, therefore I am informed all of the time whether I get spam or a normal comment.
I hope this explains how I do things, you can set it up whichever way you choose. This works for us and our readers.
Also, don’t get discouraged, there are quite a few of us with our antennae out!
No not discouraged at all. I see that it did go through right after i wrote it. But you did get my main point the Steve could not possibly have support in the range of 12 to 1 positive. i.e. Him not allowing posts to get through. I have posted on other word press blogs and they always have to be moderated and people just plain afraid to speak up because of the attacks from his followers.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 3:15 AM
William, I guess I missed what you had meant, NOW I get it.
See the thing is that even if you get a negative comment, even if it is controversial, you post it, that is the point, to let EVERYONE have a chance to speak as long as it is cordial, or somewhat cordial.
So, Steve just lets the good comments in to toot his own horn, eh? Well, everyone has a reason to rip him a new a-hole, but to avoid everyone and take a month off, which I read. (I know you commented on this in another article). I also read this on Steve’s site, well that is a great way to avoid the heat in the kitchen and leave everyone with a bad taste in their mouth!
Wendy,
I thank you for the sanity!!
You took the words right out of my mouth. While I have always believed in ET’s, at first I saw this as something that could be real, but very quickly saw that something wasn’t right.
I mean, if they have so much ability to know what we are desiring and when to pick someone up, why would we need to use a channel at all? Why not come in and say hello to Steve Beckow personally, right?
And most of all, the aftermath — Are we so crazy that we would ask a channel if another channel is to be trusted?
“The kingdom of God is within you.” I remember this from somewhere! lol
Renee’
I just started my new blog since this fiasco. (It’s a work in progress.)
**divinetransformation2012.wordpress.com
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 3:51 AM
Renee, I read your blog post, very nice writing! We need more writers and sane folks in these circles! So yeah, welcome to writinghood!
I have to say in regards to these things anyone can get sucked into the negative vortex, it can even happen to me. I usually take time off if I feel as though I have been compromised, it is the best thing to do rather than go on unsure, fumbling around where the rules change constantly!
Steve has been compromised for some time, which is why Greg and I stopped being moderators for his forum. It just got to be too much and was emotionally damaging as Steve was a basket case when he was out of control with what is going on with his forums, and we got the brunt of it so we walked away last July and for the most part never looked back until now! When we heard this story and the fact that it came from Linda Dillon, who Greg and I had a 3 hour reading for $500 (which is a discounted rate, it should have been $600) with, I knew something was wrong and I couldn’t let people go along with this charade, it was too damaging to people’s souls.
I think asking a channeler who is honest (which is hard to find) if another is a fraud is not so crazy, I truly believe you can get a lot of answers from an honest channeler, it’s just a matter of finding them.
I channel, but I don’t do it for anyone but myself, because it is something that is sacred and personal to me. Steve could channel his own guides, but he chooses not to and has not practiced to do as such because he has Linda Dillon. I wouldn’t rely on one person for my life, unless it is my husband and children, if we had any. Trust is a tough thing for me, I would go to 10 psychics a few times around, if I go this route, before I rely on a few sources, not just one person as your sole source! I knew something was wrong right there.
Another flag went up when the Hope Chest Fund and Bridge Fund came into play, I shook my head in disgust because we are trying to get away from money, not work with it in our light work to pay people’s bills. How did people do it before these funds came out? Who knows, all I can say is that apparently it is a huge scam that Linda Dillon has conjured up and she even might be prosecuted for her actions, who knows?
Well I hope that you are okay through all of this, it seems like you took it with a grain of salt, good for you! Sometimes when something doesn’t sound right, it usually isn’t right.
In Love, Light, and Truth, Wendy
Hello, I would like to preface my comments by saying I really don’t know what Steve Beckow’s policy regarding comments on all articles are, but I do know that regarding the Occupy disclosure comments, my comments were not filtered and they would be construed as negative. I wasn’t what I consider attacked but some had a disagreement with my perspective. Although I don’t have much faith in the channeler Mr. Beckow uses, I believe Steve to be a forthright man with integrity and honest intentions. By him leaving his site on a hiatus to live up to a statement he made that he would if the trip fell through, shows me he is true to his word and a seeker of the light and truth!
GKT Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:19 AM
@Ready For The Shift,
Wendy- I had my awakening only early fall of last year and am trying to understand this massive new reality I and we are facing. I, too, am bedridden and my body is taking a beating from whatever is being directed our way. I am sorry you and Greg are experiencing health problems, too.
As a newbie, I feel that all channelers should always (especially now) be open and aware to the fact that they are still human and, thus, likely to be deceived at some point (if not often). For any channeler to believe that there is no possibility of ever being mislead is a major ego problem. I have seen many points in Linda’s channelings that just felt wrong. This is true with lots of the channeling stuff I read these days.
Now, more than ever, we lightworkers (including myself) need to STOP relying on the channeling. It is going to deceive us to teach us that very lesson you mention- to look within.
However, I feel that bringing up stories and stuff from Steve’s past is reverting back to typical human behavior. I hope we are all now past that. I was teased and bullied growing up and I also did many, many stupid things I am not proud of. Heck, I continue to this day to struggle with being jealous, thinking mean things, etc.
I don’t think the lightworker community needs to be advertising stupid and regretful things we are trying to move past. That is what makes us lightworkers, we are aware of our imperfections and are “on alert” to confront ourselves when old icky habits rise up again.
I agree the entire Neptune “incident” doesn’t sit well and that Linda’s (and many others) channelings should be set aside for now. Your points come across just fine and there is no need to drag Steve’s childhood antics, antics from last year, etc., etc., into all this.
Sincerely,
Ginger
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:40 PM
@GKT, Ginger, health problems in regards to physical pain is hard to deal with, so sorry you have to deal with it too, but with these kinds of problems that I arose and reported on, I expected physical pain due to the stress it does on my body, but it is what it is. I am surprised I am up and writing again today as I am hurting, but I have to let people know that it is okay to look at something and question it, even stuff I report on. When people don’t listen to their FIRST instinct and apparently listen to what information they did listen to, they get upset that it did not come to fruition and someone has to be to blame. It can’t be the one that told them the information though, that isn’t logical, they have to blame people such as myself and I find that Ludicrous, but again I take it with a grain of salt knowing that the wrath was coming my way.
I do agree that the conversation got a bit out of control yesterday, emotions flared, even mine, but as much as I could, I tried to contain myself, it is hard when you are the only one running a website as I do not have anyone but my husband to help me with this website. So writing to everyone yesterday in the comment section took a toll on me and I am sure most of the people that continually posted comments. It is such a tough thing to realize that you have been taken advantage of, especially when you trust the person giving the information, such as Steve.
I think Steve needs to take this break to recollect himself and gain his footing. I even sent him a nice email letting him know my thoughts and that I feel bad that it has come to this, but he needs to know. I DO CARE! I care way too much as a matter of fact, but not sure if you can care TOO much. I just want peace and happiness just like all of us do. I am trying to guide you AND Steve in the right direction as I think he veered off of the track and took a lot of people with him.
You are right, we should move past this and learn from it and not dwell on the outcome, but learn from this and know that I am not doing this to be malicious by any means! I am doing this because I completely care about our world we live in and the people in it. Just know this isn’t done from spite at all, there is no hard feelings and there is no spite to be had. I am doing this out of love and caring for humanity!
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:33 PM
@Ken, Ken, So you are saying that you had made a comment on Steve’s site, he let it go through even though it was negative? Therefore he doesn’t filter certain comments? I actually beg to differ, but that is just my opinion based on people who had issues with that last year with Steve and his website as well as his forums.
Also, I believe that Steve is an okay person, but he needs to work on himself, he has a lot of issues which Greg and I witnessed a few times first hand! I don’t think he is a bad person, I believe the data he is getting is VERY incorrect and he needs to rectify it. Walking away for others to deal with his mess that he made with Linda Dillon, is not an answer, that is simply a cop out so that he doesn’t have to deal with the aftermath of it all!
You do know he has lost 5 editors yesterday, they walked away because they knew that this ride was not the ride to be on. Steve needs to grow up, stop being controlling, which I am not sure many people get to see, but if you are an editor or a moderator of his sites (which Greg and I were), you often have LONG conversations/meetings on skype and get to know this side of Steve, it isn’t pretty!
Steve told us once on skype that he used to throw sticks in people’s bicycle spokes and watch them flip over on their bike and he would run! Now is that a good person?
Ken and Wendy,
Wendy I never told you this yet but back in 2009 when GRT came into being Steve started GRT for Mark Huber. It started in January that year. In April they posted they were looking for moderator help so I answered the call along with others. I think their whole team quit at once they Steve as owner had to find more help. He asked me to lead moderate. I started in April and as time went along Steve became more controlling calling me and emailing me all the time for the most anything and everything. He could not let my lead my team of 7 mods with any peace. Finally during July of 2009 he became very passive aggressive with me and by the end of the month(July) I had to just quit and Steve was not very nice in is reply to me at all. I have known the many for almost 3 years and he is nice to who he wants to be and mean to who he wants to be. I had been on the receiving end of his mean streak more than once. I have even heard him talking gleefully of how he used to go out street brawling and beating people and and being proud of it. I in no way thing Steve is an evil guy but because of the way he treated me 2 years and 8 months ago my opinion of him is not as high as maybe yours or wendy’s opinion is. Steve as never made any attempt to apologize for the devastation he caused me for his behaviors and he even attempted to tell me that the problem was all mine and he did nothing wrong. Steve is not who he seems in public. I don;t know how the man does it to have so many people hanging on his every word as if it is the manna of life. I knew eventually this sort of exposure would come out. @ days ago he said he was out for a month with no posting or anything yet still 2 days later he cant resist the urge and still has posted. I personally think he should just go away and not return and let everyone regroup and get on. I think his 2012scenario site was Ok with his usual articles and analysis of the channelings. It was even very informative at times. but when the stuff with linda started and the hope chest and the bridge fund happened that is when he started running into trouble. I know my assessment of him is harsh but I have some sorted history with the man being the one on the short end of the stick for his abuse. I have worked very hard over the last couple of years to clear my life of the messy business that he caused me by the way he treated me. Nuff said I could.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:12 AM
William, I had no idea that you were involved with Steve’s shenanigans years ago. Was that for Share11? When we were moderators he did the same thing, it’s almost like he couldn’t take being out of control one second, he has people bamboozled into thinking he is the end all be all and he is not.
I really think he needs time to look within to clean up his vasana’s, because he still has issues with males because his father used to beat up his mother. He used to tell us stories of how he would be the kid who threw a stick in a bicycle spoke to other kids, only to watch their demise and fall on their faces over the handle bars of the bike. Now is that someone I would take advice from? No, certainly not!! Steve certainly needs a lot of therapy, not a vacation, but serious therapy! Also, this doesn’t sound like a lot of lightworkers, where we have been teased as kids, ridiculed, etc. Seems like he was one of those kids that teased and hurt others. Not a lightworker type behavior!
I hate talking ill of someone, but when you do not get mental help such as I have had for over 30 years now off and on, then you shouldn’t be out here amongst the public eye!
I feel so bad for people that have not had a direct experience because they only know what we speak of and have not experienced it themselves.
I hope everyone learned a valuable lesson, I know I did!
William thanks for posting your thoughts and experiences here, it is very much appreciated!
First, let me say that I take channeled information, from others, as seriously as a grain of sand on the beach. Over the years I’ve learned to channel on my own and quite frankly have moved beyond it. I’ve reached a level where I KNOW nothing can cast it’s shadow on my light, for it’s MY light and MY eternal soul. NOTHING happens without MY ok. Dark entities, dark forces, etc, cannot do anything to me if I simply don’t let them in. It’s very simple, take control of your light and the darkness cannot do anything. think of a lit candle in a dark room that doesn’t go out. No matter what’s done to extinguish the light, it doesn’t go out. It’s on permanently.
What all light-workers on this planet have to realize is they have all they need inside them. They don’t have to pay hundreds per hour to have a con artist feed them a bunch of bull. But it’s part of the problem with people today, they don’t want to do their homework, just the answers as fast as possible (diet pills are a clear indicator of how lazy people have become). They will ALWAYS fail in their light work. ALWAYS. This is because they aren’t looking into their own love and light. They look to others for the answers, which WILL lead them down the wrong path, simply because it’s not coming from within. This is why there is no one all-encompassing answer to the questions “why am i here? what’s my purpose in life?”
I like you was critical of this whole fiasco. First, Linda just rubs me the wrong way. I’ve learned to listen to my heart and instincts and they’re pretty accurate. Then while reading the posts by Steve leading up to the Feb. 4th date, all I kept hearing in the back of my head was “this is total BS. something isn’t right.” THEN the need of e-mail addresses? really?? with all that technology and their “advanced” spiritual level, I would think they would KNOW who’s ready to pick up and who isn’t and where they are. The straw that broke the camels back for me was this ET president fellow getting the origin of the name of the ship “Neptune” wrong. Anyone in the universe that knows ANYTHING about Greek mythology or even the Greek language knows Neptune is the ROMAN (latin) name given to POSEIDON (Greek god of the sea). All sorts of bells, whistles and alarms started to go off. Right there, I the channel was, was a complete and total imbecile. First for not correcting Steve when he said neptune is greek and second for agreeing with him and taking it further. Linda should have payed more attention during world history class. But if someone is lying, let them talk long enough and they will trip themselves up and light will be shed on their darkness.
After reading through your comments on the original thread, something struck a chord with me, this apparent division of the light worker community. As an ex-military officer (Greek Armed Forces), what’s the best way to disrupt and take down an enemy from within? Divide and Conquer. Do something to stir up the community pitting them against each other resulting in a division and making it easier to conquer. With what they (linda, steve) are doing is facilitating the Divide with all this BS to allow the unenlightened ones to maintain whatever little sliver of control they have left, because they require fear, chaos, etc. to exist. The dark forces however know their time is up on this Earth and are trying anything and everything to stay. I don’t blame them for wanting to stay, it’s a beautiful planet, but their time has come.
I’ve also had intense feelings and some dreams where it’s as if they (dark forces?) are searching for someone. Not like a ‘Jesus’ figure that walks on water and performs miracles, but someone,”normal” who is here on this Earth now that is of pure light and is a key of some sort (kinda like the 100th monkey scenario). These feelings have become stronger and stronger since about November of 2011. However, this person is being protected by mother Earth along with the light that is here to help in our evolution. This also ties into David Wilcock’s Source Field Investigation and the collapsing of wave forms into matter. I feel this “person” is what is collapsing the universal wave form into a reality we then all experience.
-Theo.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Theo, you know I actually missed that Neptune is not originated from a greek word, that it is in fact latin. I totally missed that in all of this mess!
Also, you are right in saying for people to look inward, as you will see I don’t post a lot of channels on our site, it isn’t that important to me as it shouldn’t be to anyone! Especially at this time we are supposed to listen to our intuition and Steve fails to practice that in this past year that we have known him, when this is what ALL of us are working towards. That just didn’t the way, we left Steve and his fellow associates, if you will, last July and went on our own discoveries. First thing we did was read ALL of those folks that Steve forbid us to read, for those that were to be working with him (aka forum moderators/editors), we read! We couldn’t believe a lightworker would guide us to not read certain folks material, or even get their own take on the person, he forbade it! I am not kidding.
When Greg and I were moderators he was a nut case contacting us on every medium possible, only to tell me not to post after him in the forums because people will think we are in a clique. WHAT? Who does that? Not a sane person! It reminds me of some of the guys I used to go out with, they would call me all of the time, coming to my house, knocking on my door, then calling me a hundred times to see if I am home because I wasn’t home when they just arrived at my doorstep. This is OCD behavior and although I am familiar with people that have this, this was to the utmost extreme! Kind of scary if you think about it, especially since we just met him last February/March and he was stalking us when he didn’t like certain things, as they were not within his guidelines of his own mind.
I truly feel sorry for Steve, even now he is still being bamboozled and he continues to believe Linda Dillon and the GFL with every ounce of his being and others are continuing to follow him. This is just a mess, it’s not like we are therapists and can get him help, he needs to want it himself and from what I understand he thinks he is sane, when he is in fact not. It’s a shame!!
I knew from the get-go that this was BS! I have my BS detectors straight up feeling my way through this mucky planet, for now, because when we are done fighting the dark forces we will have heaven on earth and this is the fight we must contend to unfortunately and the evidence doesn’t lie.
Thank you Theo for your thoughts on this matter, it is very much appreciated and I am sure others will benefit from your knowledge as well.
In love, light, and TRUTH,
Wendy
No matter how crazy they are, and I don’t argue that, to spend this much time tearing them down is pure self-righteousness and spite. Perhaps it is well-meaning spite. Perhaps you think you are motivated by a search for Truth. But it’s just bitterness.
I read Linda Dillon as fiction with a seed of truth–and, as all fiction contains a seed of truth, I read her as fiction. Sometimes it’s bad fiction, sometimes it’s good fiction. Either way, it stimulates the imagination and leads me to greater insights.
Therefore, I am not worried about the Neptune trip, I do not feel “deceived,” and I am not going to join this bashing bandwagon.
It’s so ironic that you accuse Steve of stirring up in-fighting —- on a post where you are stirring up in-fighting! LOL. I have never seen him attack anyone. Nor Linda. I see a lot of lightworker-bashing here though!
Can you point me in the direction of Steve’s recent bitter posts? Can you show me evidence of RECENT (not childhood, lol) evil on his part? Maybe that would help me understand your bitter feelings.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Carina,
I do not do this to cause pain, I do not do this to be right, I wish I was wrong as this hurts me to no end that people were duped. We have known Steve for a year now, we had a reading with Linda Dillon, which most of what she was saying we did not resonate with. The only thing we resonated with was Atlantis, but I think all of us relate to Atlantis, so there was no surprise there. Have you had a reading done by her, did you spend $500 for 2 people for a 3 hour session? I am sure you did not, therefore you would not have first hand experience of the matter, but if you did pardon my ignorance.
I do this as a Truth bearer, a light warrior for peace, and yes it is TOUGH LOVE! It is not bashing someone when you are trying to help ALL of humanity decipher from a good medium and Linda Dillon! She is not of the light, she has an agenda and she has been accused of fraud in a 2002 case, therefore this is not conjecture, these are facts and I hate to point it out to people, but YOU cannot be bamboozled any longer, I hope you understand my position.
Thanks for the comment, I welcome comments so that I can answer people properly on this issue.
In love,light and TRUTH,
Wendy
just reading -trying to sort out my feelings and trust
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:31 PM
Barbara, don’t lose hope! When something in your gut tells you that something doesn’t sound right, listen to it! We have not been blinded by Steve and Linda because Greg and I walked away last July from being forum moderators, that is why we can see with eyes wide open.
It saddens me to no end that people have been duped by Linda Dillon through Steve, I was sitting here crying for all of you, literally, because it pains me to see people go through the angst, disappointment, among chaos running through their veins. It is not something I wish to point out to anyone, but I have to let people know and having first hand experience with Linda Dillon and her channeling, we knew everyone was being had and I can’t watch this happen to people, I LOVE humanity, I want to help humanity, I don’t want to break people’s hopes and dreams time and time again only to truly break you!
I do hope you are doing okay and I am so sorry to point out these issues but looking at this all from a far I knew and had to say something. I do hope that you have found some peace within yourself throughout all of this. I am so sorry for what happened to all of you! My heart breaks for each and every one of you, please know that there are people like us out there that can help assist you in the right manner. I hope you are doing well considering.
In love, light, and TRUTH,
Wendy
3D duality at its finest^^!
so much pain, where does this all come from?…
reacting from pain, growing into a rant against the “bad guys”.
peoples reactions to the potential neptune trip were either fear-based, thus from the mind with doubt or belief, or love-based, with trust from the heart.
the doubters are satisfied now “i knew, it wouldn’t happen”. the believers are disappointed “i’d hoped so much for it”. and the trustiees…? well, the trustees trust. still openly trust, without being dependant on the outcome. trust, that everything unfolds according to the divine plan. trust, that all is well in all of creation.
trust is a quality of the heart.
everyone, who came in contact with this idea of the joyride can see, where they are at right now.
what dominates, love or fear? the choice to give attention to either side is ours, each moment again.
going into rants against the “bad guys” is exactly, what the dark likes best as an outcome from this project. it is going into separation, it is going into the duality of the mind. it is fear dictating the thinking and feeling. it is one lightworker fighting the other. if “they” like to split us up, then here we go, yahoo…
for sure this is not love-based. it is fear at work. it is, what the “bad guys” want from the “good guys”. (and as long as we identify with being the “good guy”, we cannot see that we carry the darkness inside, no?)
what pain has been done to the people? has any physical damage happened?
where is the pain? who feels the pain? can we take the pain to our hearts, as old wounds having been triggered again for us to realize and integrate? or do we still feel like victims and look out for the perpetrator, who has done us harm?
people are responsable for their thoughts and feelings. we create with our thoughts and feelings.
yes, we know it all… and still we are subjected to look out, when the outcome is not as desired. are we blind followers, who don’t know truth in their hearts, but believe what others tell us? where is our inner discernment?
some trusties were sitting on packed bags, enjoying the feelings of love and joy in their hearts. they still have their bag packed, ready to jump at the appropriate moment. if the outside doesn’t respond in that way, fine, the real jump anyway happens inside. disclosure happens on the inside first. the heart is in trust, and the heart knows, that all is well in all of creation.
what pain has been done? disappointed?
disappointment is a result of believing in an illusion and putting hopes into it. it’s the mind, not knowing, therefore either believing or doubting.
some people even went as far as outing themselves as going to the stars in their surrounding, blind to the fact, that potentials need 3D-energy to manifest. this creational energy comes from everyone, who got in contact with the idea of the journey. with so many people cooking one soup, the outcome is more than unsure. it’s a potential, needing the collective energ to unfold in tangible form.
so, instead of getting prepared, leaving things open and keeping it easy, many got carried away by their emotions and hopes. (hope, actually, is a very mindy thing: it says, that things are not ok the way they are right now, and that we need the fulfillment of the desire to be happy. it is future oriented, it draws us out of the now-moment, which is quite the opposite direction to ascension.)
what pain has been done?
people feel betrayed. this is an old pain in all of us, being triggered again. time to take it into the heart for it to transform into love. a good moment to start listening to the inner voice, instead of blindly following others.
appointments had to be cancelld? well, s*it happens… there will be new appointments. a matter of priorities.
people have lost money through having to reschedule work? that’s a bad thing.
and still, it’s a matter of priorities. who knows, what opportunities might instead pop up during these 10 days of more free time? may be there’s a gift in it for an open-minded person?
people face ridicule?
well, i told my sons teacher that we might be away for 10 days due to family matters. my family was told, that we might go on a journey to meet old friends. no ridicule happened. and even, if it had happened, so what? loosing reputation? well, if this is, what is important in life, then it’s a hint to what work is still to be done^^…
the pain people feel now is from the past. it is old wounds, that haven’t yet healed.
we can rant against those, who triggered them now – and i’m sure, more will come up during the nexts months, ascension energy smashes our issues right into our faces -, again having found someone else responsible. by this we choose to keep them a bit longer.
we can also take all the feelings and thoughts about “disclosure round 1″ inside. activate the heart by breathing into it, align with the divine heart and gaias heart, remember being the I AM presence, breathe the pains into the heart and allow them to transform into their highest potential. the divine humans heart is incredibly potent, it doesn’t need protection, whatever darkness it takes in, it pours out love and joy and trust.
even for the ones who have hurt us.
even for the “dark forces”, who are our brothers and sisters in the game called polarity, and who need our love and forgivenss and honour for having taken on the difficult part of the game this life time. imagine, how painful !, having to turn the back to the light, moving deeper and deeper into the darkness, separate, lonely, forgetting the inner light. this is the path most of us walked on earth. this is a pain we all carry.
i’m sure, the more we are able to take back our projections from the “dark”, the more we call home our own polar aspects to come into the light of our consciousness, the easier the kabal and illuminati and who-knows-which-bad-guys can remember being one and a light unto themselves.
a good outcome from neptune joyride:
everyone can clearly see now, where they are at. everyone can choose every moment afresh, to go with fear, which means distrust, doubt, belief, or to go with love, which means trust, truth and joy.
what else can be learned from the neptune project?
even if it was initiated by the “dark forces”, the lightworker community can turn it into light, just by going with love, processing the triggered emotions and regaining self-responability and freedom.
what happens now – the blaming, ranting, outward looking -, feess fear and mistrust. this serves the dark best.
namaste – devapriya
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
Devapriya, I do have to say I am not satisfied or happy that this did not manifest, I feel pain as an empath and a medium myself, I do not like seeing people be taken advantage of, PERIOD! It’s called TOUGH LOVE as I fail to see it as putting someone down, but a means to help people decipher the truth on their own. It’s something I have direct experience with because Greg and I had a 3 hour reading from Linda Dillon and being an intuitive, I trust on my inner gut and heart and know she is a fraud! I do not do this to bash ANYONE, just to let you know and understand where I am coming from. I do this so that others. like myself, can discern the truth, because the blinders are on and Steve and some of his readers STILL have those blinders on, which I am shocked based on the evidence myself and others have found.
I am not one to EVER point out another person’s faults, I watched all of this happen with Steve’s readers and Linda Dillon way too long (since we stopped being moderators on his forums last July) and I have had many confirmations from Archangel Michael, himself, that this is in fact not him who Linda is speaking through. I have received confirmation from others as well, who do not publicize their mediumship, that it is fact NOT Archangel Michael she is speaking through. Everyone can believe what they want, but I have had dealings with both Linda and Steve and neither of them were positive for either Greg or myself or among other folks that have had similar dealings in the past with the two of them.
This is not a matter of believing, because I certainly believe we are not alone in this Universe, that would be naive! I do NOT believe though that any “disclosure” will happen this way, nor do I believe that it will happen first! Other things need to happen for this Divine Plan to work, you cannot will people up to your ship when the majority of humanity does not know that Steve and Linda are representing humanity as a whole. You cannot represent humanity as a whole when humanity isn’t quite awake yet, even those that did not listen to their instincts about this whole trip to Neptune.
These dark forces can infiltrate anyone, even me, but I protect myself DAILY and I know what is real, FOR NOW, and what is fantasy upon a wish for humanity. You cannot go into these things with blinders on, people stopped deciphering because they thought Steve was doing it for them. The lesson is Steve is not the end all be all, you have to look inward, know yourself, clean your karma, and be a whole person before you can truly look inward and know what to listen for or to whom.
If you follow blindly that is not my fault, it is not my fault or other nay sayers fault that this didn’t happen. It is Steve and Linda’s fault. Steve for listening to one source for most of his life’s answers and Linda for taking advantage of Steve’s naivety.
I am so sorry all of you are disappointed, but it is a lesson learned to do your OWN deciphering and not take someone’s website at face value unless they prove tangible facts (because YES we are STILL on 3d, for now) like we have here on our website.
Thank you for your comment, I appreciate your honesty and I do feel bad that all of this transpired and people were in emotional and physical pain (I have Fibromyalgia and my husband has degenerative disc disease and is bed ridden, so we know what kind of physical pain these things can cause).
If you trust blindly, ESPECIALLY this year, you will have a longer road to get to the same place all of us are trying to get to (we are NOT trying to go into space right now as all of your answers will come from within).
In love, light, and TRUTH,
Wendy
I’m pleased to see real discernment happening with those who have paid any attention at all to Steve Beckow and his adventures over the past couple years.
I first came to his material when he was ‘Brother Anonymous’ in ’08 or so and then found his 2012 website in ’10. At first I enjoyed some of the articles that moved more towards what people are assuming ‘disclosure’ to be, but soon became aware that things were veering into a realm of imbalance and control, not integrated with previous articles on enlightenment. That imbalance, judgement and thinly disguised temper issues, the ever-present ‘vasanas’, were increasingly apparent in the comment section while they remained open.
What I can tell you from personal experience is that any comment that Steve didn’t like, he didn’t post. I know this because he would reply to my comments but not allow them on the site unless it praised him or agreed with him. THAT is why he needed helpers: to control opinion first by wading through comments (called ‘moderating’) and eventually do the work he lined out, not to screen out supposed spam. And he needed moderators that he could control….and many he couldn’t control. This was discernibly obvious if you followed along with his long editorial comments and personal, self serving episodes over time with the website foundering back an forth between dramas. Pride, ego, self importance…website hits–something quickly referred to. Does anyone really believe there were over 100K web hits one day last week because ‘people are interested in disclosure’?? C’mon people let’s get real. The believers were clicking for more articles and many, many others wanted to see how Beckow would negotiate this latest drama: the joyride.
I could be incorrect, but my discernment tells me that Beckow was reaching the end of the gig and he needed a way out. He has signaled all along that he’s over worked (which is self imposed) needs to work on himself, needs workers for his vision blah, blah, blah. Well … looks like there might be severe issues with Dillion, Schmidt and this whole ‘nesara’ fantasy. So Beckow pushed the disclosure envelope (again), but this time forcing the issue and taking his readership with him. This is his way out; and for ‘everyone else’s benefit’, not his own, mind you. I’ll be very surprised if there isn’t some editorial post up in early March that claims he’s been in touched with ‘an angel’ and now his ‘lord’ says to give up the reigns while he rides off into the sunset.
Not only is the alleged ‘Grener’ not someone to follow, but neither is Steve Beckow. Time for everyone to get on their OWN horse and find out why they got involved and where their lives go from here. You have all the insight and material you need…just ‘go inside’ as others have said.
Now, some will find my comments harsh. They ARE harsh. The truth can be a harsh learning tool–there’s nothing ‘negative’ about that. Don’t fall into Beckow mind-speak and make an immediate denial thoughtform for yourself with words like: negative, of the dark, being 3D, divisive, vasana-related, attacking and even ‘not a light worker’ etc. to explain my comments. Consider them and think what you will, not what someone else tells you to think.
Discernment is absolutely key, not only here but in everyday life. If you find yourself caught up over this episode and uncertain about your ability to discern, then GET EDUCATED NOW before someone else attempts to con you again. Be responsible for yourself and take what works and forget the rest. Don’t demonize or declare ‘dark’ those who don’t agree or have seen a different view—that’s NOT ‘being the change’. Get on with your 3D life because regardless what anyone tells you, you ARE IN this dimension right now. Make the most of your ‘time’. Take care of YOU, and the world will follow.
And … most importantly, do some serious research into the term ‘cult grooming’ when it comes to the whole drama of the 2012 Scenario, both in general and the Beckow website.
Be well.
a previous reader Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:21 PM
@Ready For The Shift,
Not sure if this went through before, but yes, you may post my previous comments.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:34 PM
@a previous reader, awesome! I will post it tomorrow, I am pooped.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
@a previous reader, @a previous reader, Wow! I could not have said it better!! Can I post this as an article tomorrow? This is EXACTLY what we have been saying all along. Why do people keep banging their heads against the wall over and over and over again expecting different results. Wow, just wow to humanity, I hope we can wake everyone up and Decalcify their brains. Just wow. Today has been rough, a lot of thought provoking comments, my brain has worked overtime so I will wait for your reply and hopefully you will allow me to post this anonymously on our website. In love, light, and TRUTH, Wendy
wendy,
you say “If you trust blindly, ESPECIALLY this year, you will have a longer road to get to the same place all of us are trying to get to”.
in my experience, belief is blind. therefore doubt is a good counterpart. the pondering mind needs doubt, it doesn’t have the knowing.
and you’re right, it it nessecary to check for truth inside, and not believe, what this master and this spirit and that galactic tell us.
but i talk about trust.
trust is no-mind, trust is heart.
and that’s why i need to turn our statement just the other way around:
if you trust fullheartedly, ESPECIALLY this year, you will REMEMBER, what you are, and have a shorter road to relax into the same place all of us are trying to get to (and have alwas been, just had forgotten).
wendy, by now i’ve managed to read through all comments on this page. i’ve heard a few times, that you left working with steve in july, and why. a few times, that you feel ripped of by linda. a few times, that you pitty the people who got hurt, and want prevent people to get duped.
i honour your wish to help people learn discernment. i wish the same.
just want to make you aware, that you are not neutral and come from a point of judgment. it is obvious, that you carry a lot of pain around steve and linda. and you use this situation to process the wound here in the open, using the energy coming with the comments to circle around the same spots again and again.
remember, only the ego-mind can be hurt. the true self cannot be hurt. the buddha cannot be hurt.
and for the hurt ego-mind to heal, the best place is the heart, isn’t it? forgivenss is a good one to start with^^…
you sign with “In love, light, and TRUTH”.
- when there is love, there is no blame. love cannot excludes anyone and anything. love is not an emotion to be felt and directed ehre and there, but our true state of being, which we sometimes embody and often fall out of again in 3D.
- when there is light, there is no darkness. darkness has no substance on its own, it’s just the absence of light. bring light into a dark room, and the darkness fades. bring consciousness into the unconscious reactions, and you own yourself a little bit more.
- truth is not “my reality”. you don’t talk truth, you talk your reality. it is ok to talk ones own reality. it is not ok to call that TRUTH. it is not truth, that linda is a fake. it is your perception. my perception is different. some things she expresses ring true, some things don’t resonate. i trust my inner barometer and take only what fits me, as i do with every message i receive. that is my reality.
to put an automated signature of high expectation below messsages of limited 3D expression is painful for me to read from a lightworker, sorry.
you say “…people stopped deciphering because they thought Steve was doing it for them.”
this is the point.
isn’t it cute, how we human kiddies always seek a daddy to do the work for us? one, who is responsible? sheep running after a shepard, brrrr…
time to grow up!
this is a very good outcome now!
take channellings and everything else with discernment, listen for truth to the inside, stop following others and start following your own true being.
and don’t waste your energy on trying to prove fault in others. judgement says more about the judging person than about the person being judged.
with a twinkle in the eye – devapriya
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 9th, 2012 at 7:03 PM
Devapriya, I am not doing this because of pain cause to me in the past, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with all of this, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ALL OF THIS, because I am in no such pain over the matter, just explaining my point when people didn’t read the comments above. I am just here to simply point out the obvious and to help humanity along the path of looking inward and not to channeled sources. I point blame where people are being swindled out of their hard earned money, something, for right now, allows humanity to survive. I do not rely on one source, nor do I rely on any source but MY OWN! I am grown up enough to know that what they are doing to you and others is embezzlement as well as fraudulent behaviors and you should know as a “lightworker” that you are to look inward and not to Steve or his channeled messages through Linda Dillon. Many people have jumped off that train and came to the realization that Steve needs to clear his ‘vasanas’, which these retreats he takes is not doing him justice, perhaps he should try something else rather than going away to gain footage.
There is no judgement when they are facts, facts does not equal judgement. I sincerely hope that Steve and Linda get the help they need because it is just becoming delusional at this point.
Also, I will not be responding any longer as I think I have covered the bases. Please take care of yourself and live in your heart!
In Love, light, and TRUTH (not what others tell you or what you read, but what you feel within yourself),
Wendy
carina Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:43 AM
@devapriya, I just want to thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for this beautiful illuminating post!!
@Wendy, to answer your question in another thread, no, I have never paid Linda for a reading. Have you? Do you feel ripped off? Is that why you feel so strongly that you need to expose her to other people who may not be aware she is a fraud?
I am sure you both already know this, but it can stand to be repeated–your convictions are not THE Truth, no matter how many “facts” you have to support them. Your convictions are YOUR Truth. If you honour other people’s free will and inner integrity, you shouldn’t insist that they accept your truth and then call them irrational or unenlightened if they don’t. This is not an organised religion, after all!
Wendy, I am MOST CERTAINLY NOT saying this is what you are doing. In fact I am sure it is the opposite of what you intend. However, your comments come close enough to stating that you are right and Linda’s supporters (of which I am not one) are wrong, that I just wanted to point this out so we can all keep it in mind as we attempt to find our own meaning out of all this. I think Devapriya is probably right when s/he says you are not a neutral and unbiased source. When you think about it, no one is neutral and unbiased, really…no matter how hard we try.
It’s great that these contrasting viewpoints are being expressed! It’s absolutely fascinating to me. I sincerely thank you for starting this conversation and for keeping such an open mind and a firm commitment to being true to yourself and your readers.
People who don’t want to accept the truth will go to many extremes of denial. If there is proof of past wrongdoing by Dave or Linda, then what is the problem of informing everyone if there is a public record? These end times are exposing truths whether we like them or not. I don’t see the need for Wendy to repeat herself for the gazillionth time either.
Hello Ready for the Shift, in response to your question about Steve Beckow is yes I commented negatively without it getting censored. With that said, I noticed he is still posting as of today, so much for his word. His URL listing has gone to the recycle bin.
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
@Ken, well I know that Steve closes his comments, he should leave them open to get some insight as to what people think from all avenues.
Thanks Wendy and Greg for your analyses! I also wrote a blog post (my blog is new, still in progress) on why Steve Beckow’s “voyage to the stars” was not going to happen and why Source itself would not allow it.
This post is my latest, and is titled “Expediting Disclosure?”. The posting date is February 8th. Would love it if one of you would check it out.
Many Thanks, Christine
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:38 PM
@Christine Hoeflich, @Christine Hoeflich, I found your website and I would really like to post this article http://www.christinehoeflich.com/?p=115 Just an awesome post! You got it, you know it and I am glad that I reached you and countless others. I would love to write a bit about all of the blogs that are coming around now, I think it is important for others to be seen as their insights are spot on and these websites may not be in the public eye or popular yet.
Thank you so much for telling everyone your thoughts on your blog, it is wonderful and everyone needs to know that this is the Divine Plan and the path of our race, no one is going to save us unless we can save ourselves.
You are very welcome, Wendy
Christine Hoeflich Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:43 PM
@Ready For The Shift,
Thanks Wendy!! Looking forward to reading more of your stuff. Christine
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 10th, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Can I post your article on our website?
Christine Hoeflich Reply:
February 11th, 2012 at 2:23 AM
Yes, you can post my article on your site.
Christine
Scarletjedi,
you wrote
“If there is proof of past wrongdoing by Dave or Linda, then what is the problem of informing everyone if there is a public record?”
no problem with informing everyone about a public record. people need to be informed about facts. facts that we can take inside to find truth in ourselves. everyone who serves truth is highly honoured. it is time for much more of it now.
and hardly anyone, whose mission is to convey facts, can stay detached from personal opinion, mental concepts and the triggered emotions. that’s why theses communications, as everything else that reaches us, have to be taken with awareness, and a discernment to what is fact and what is the one presenting the fact.
3D media is bombarding us with opinions, disguised as truth. the lightworker community could really do differently. just distinguishing a bit between the facts and the personal input of the reporter along with the conlusions drawn on the base of personal judgment, and it comes in alignment with the service for truth.
when i report to someone, what has happened to me with another person, and i watch myself getting agitated and emotional, i know what i need to look at and make peace with. as long as i’m not in peace with myself and the other, i cannot present truth, but only my reality. facts mixed with emotions and judgments. which is ok, as long as it is not covered as truth.
devapriya
Ready For The Shift Reply:
February 11th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Devapriya, I want to make something clear we are here in 3D at this very moment in time. This is a court document from a judge in regards to Dave Schmidt, that isn’t media. You cannot rush going into 5D unless you have cleared your karma, I am done with this conversation and have moved on, I hope you do too.
Also, everyone can have there reality but in the end we will all come to the same reality, you are just getting there a different way than us and that is okay for that is your soul plan as we all have one. So let this be and know that this is the Divine Plan for everyone. ~Wendy